Thursday, June 02, 2005
Dick & Bush Masters of the Straw Man: and shockingly W knows the word disassemble.
The US president bristled when asked at a White House press conference about an Amnesty International report last week which said the Guantanamo detention camp for terrorist suspects had become the "gulag of our times".
"I'm aware of the Amnesty International report, and it's absurd. It's an absurd allegation," Bush replied.
"The United States is a country that promotes freedom around the world. When there's accusations made about certain actions by our people, they're fully investigated in a transparent way. It's just an absurd allegation." TRANSPARENT WAY? Why is it then that Amnesty International is prevented from observing the United States detention centers directly? Dear Georgie: countries like Libya and Sudan allow Amnesty International observers because it prevents dissenters from spreading lies about the current regimes.
The president alleged that some of the accusations by detainees were made by "people who hate America, people that have been trained in some instances to disassemble, that means not tell the truth." (Editor's note: We think the 'tard-in-chief meant DISSEMBLE meaning to deliberately mislead or distort, you know like Fox News or Scott McClellan.)
Dear Georgie, if the detainees “hate America” then shouldn’t we have open international observers at all stages of interrogation so that they are prevented from “disassembling?” And if all these detainees “hate America” why is it that we have released so many of them after years of detention without ever charging them with any crimes? I’m sure if they didn’t “hate America” before they were detained in American gulag’s they sure did by the time we released them.
The Amnesty International report has riled the US administration with Vice President Dick Cheney saying Sunday he was "offended" by the accusations.
"I think the fact of the matter is the United States has done more to advance the cause of freedom, has liberated more people from tyranny over the course of the 20th century and up to the present day than any other nation in the history of the world," Cheney said.
Dear Dick: Your previous statement is what is known in logic as the straw man fallacy. You have overstated the position of Amnesty International. Amnesty International did not accused the UNITED STATES of failing to advance the cause of liberty during the 20th Century. Amnesty International did accused THIS ADMINISTRATION of operating a gulag. You did not respond to their accusation directly, instead you opted to pretend that Amnesty International was attacking the entire United States and it history. (and on a side note you right wingnuts usually save this type of bullshit for attacking us liberals, I guess now it's applied to anyone who disagrees with you.)
In addition, your statement that “the United States has done more to advance the cause of liberty than any other nation in the history of the world” is irrelevant to whether or not the present administration of the United States is operating a gulag.
Dear Dick: Just because the United States has done some good in the world doesn’t mean we are allowed to cash in on that good by violating one of our most cherished American values, that we are a nation that respects due process of law, rather than the arbitrary whims of the President. Fuck you, you fascist pig!
Hugs and Kisses,
The Punisher
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"I'm aware of the Amnesty International report, and it's absurd. It's an absurd allegation," Bush replied.
"The United States is a country that promotes freedom around the world. When there's accusations made about certain actions by our people, they're fully investigated in a transparent way. It's just an absurd allegation." TRANSPARENT WAY? Why is it then that Amnesty International is prevented from observing the United States detention centers directly? Dear Georgie: countries like Libya and Sudan allow Amnesty International observers because it prevents dissenters from spreading lies about the current regimes.
The president alleged that some of the accusations by detainees were made by "people who hate America, people that have been trained in some instances to disassemble, that means not tell the truth." (Editor's note: We think the 'tard-in-chief meant DISSEMBLE meaning to deliberately mislead or distort, you know like Fox News or Scott McClellan.)
Dear Georgie, if the detainees “hate America” then shouldn’t we have open international observers at all stages of interrogation so that they are prevented from “disassembling?” And if all these detainees “hate America” why is it that we have released so many of them after years of detention without ever charging them with any crimes? I’m sure if they didn’t “hate America” before they were detained in American gulag’s they sure did by the time we released them.
The Amnesty International report has riled the US administration with Vice President Dick Cheney saying Sunday he was "offended" by the accusations.
"I think the fact of the matter is the United States has done more to advance the cause of freedom, has liberated more people from tyranny over the course of the 20th century and up to the present day than any other nation in the history of the world," Cheney said.
Dear Dick: Your previous statement is what is known in logic as the straw man fallacy. You have overstated the position of Amnesty International. Amnesty International did not accused the UNITED STATES of failing to advance the cause of liberty during the 20th Century. Amnesty International did accused THIS ADMINISTRATION of operating a gulag. You did not respond to their accusation directly, instead you opted to pretend that Amnesty International was attacking the entire United States and it history. (and on a side note you right wingnuts usually save this type of bullshit for attacking us liberals, I guess now it's applied to anyone who disagrees with you.)
In addition, your statement that “the United States has done more to advance the cause of liberty than any other nation in the history of the world” is irrelevant to whether or not the present administration of the United States is operating a gulag.
Dear Dick: Just because the United States has done some good in the world doesn’t mean we are allowed to cash in on that good by violating one of our most cherished American values, that we are a nation that respects due process of law, rather than the arbitrary whims of the President. Fuck you, you fascist pig!
Hugs and Kisses,
The Punisher
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# posted by The Punisher @ Thursday, June 02, 2005 
